Ammo availability/news update thread

[The War Wagon]

If you've had a birthday since last November, you've doubtless gotten a message that goes something like this:

"Happy Birthday!  NOW git yer happy ass back IN here, & start posting again!

The zombies have RISEN!  We need ALL hands, ON-deck!"

Now WHY would you get such a message as that?  BECAUSE THE DAMN ZOMBIES HAVE RISEN, AND WE NEED ALL HANDS ON-DECK!!! 

And HOW do we KNOW, they've, "risen?"

- anqueefers
- Dumbass Lives DON'T Matter (regardless your skin color - including green/grey)
- Cracka's Be Protestin'
- the SlowJoe / BlowHo insurrection
- Wolf-in-sheeple's-clothing, Mongo, and "Cousin IT" Levine
- a better armed-Taliban THIS week, than EVER before!!!  

And hence the reason We The (NORMAL) People, need a sticky, on ammo availability, to beat the undead menace back with!

So news articles on availability will be posted here, for newbies and others who HAVEN'T been stockpiling since 1992 (or earlier), to check the status of this staple of necessity!


Are Ammo Supplies and Prices Headed Back to Normal?

Mark XIX Desert Eagle pistol with a box of Speer 325-grain .50 AE ammunition

It could still be well into next year before ammunition supplies return to levels that could be considered normal, but as production is now running at near capacity – and round-the-clock at a few facilities – store shelves aren’t continually bare. Shooters that take the time to look online and shop around can increasingly find more ammunition than they could a year ago, and as a result prices have begun to level off. However, it will also be months before ammunition prices fall to pre-pandemic levels.

“I would tell people who are holding out and thinking the prices are going to drop that they might want to start looking, to kind of turn a phrase a little bit, to bite the bullet and buy the ammunition that you want now, if you can find it,” said Mark Oliva, director of public affairs for the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the firearm industry trade association.

Oliva, who spoke to the Panama City News Herald last month, explained that the influx of new gun owners last year and widespread stockpiling – even hoarding – drove up prices to levels that were previously unseen.

“5.56 ammunition for an AR-15 used to be about 33 cents a round,” Oliva said. “Now you’re looking at closer to almost a dollar a round. So it is much more expensive and it is much more difficult to find ammunition.”

Downward Curve
The good news is that as the supply of ammunition has increased, the prices have also declined. According to data from AmmoPricesNow.com, which tracks daily average prices, the price for the aforementioned .556 hit a yearly high of $0.79 in late March. As of Sunday, the average price was down to $0.47 per round. It is still higher than the pre-pandemic $0.33, but a lot better than what consumers were paying just five months ago.

Prices of almost all popular calibers have seen a decline in recent weeks, even as hunting season is around the corner. The price of 30-30 Winchester has fallen by nearly half, from nearly $3 per round in late March to $1.7. However, that is actually up in price from the yearly low in early June when 30-30 hit an average price of $1.25. It is likely the coming hunting season has shooters stocking up, so prices climbed accordingly.

The story is very similar with .308 Winchester, which was about $0.50 per round in June of last year just as the pandemic drove up prices. It skyrocketed in price, and in January 2021 hit an average high of $1.28. Prices dipped by early August to $0.48 but have started to climb again. For hunters, now is the time to buy the ammunition when you see it available.

Buying Online
Tired of finding empty store shelves, many shooters now look online for the best deals. However, as with any consumer product, one needs to be cautious of “too good to be true” deals online. If ammunition is far cheaper than anywhere else that should be seen as a red flag.
It isn’t just that the ammo might never arrive, but the quality could be an issue as well.


Image: Creative Commons.

“Do your due diligence and check out those websites to make sure that they’re legitimate,” said the NSSF’s Oliva. “Make sure that they’re trustworthy and make sure that you’re not getting burned, because we have seen reports of some fly-by-night sites where people aren’t getting the product that they’re ordering. You know, the big guys in the industry who have a good reputation have a good reputation for a reason, because the vendor stands by their customers. So it’s worthwhile to maybe invest in purchasing from those people.”

Peter Suciu is a Michigan-based writer who has contributed to more than four dozen magazines, newspapers and websites. He regularly writes about military small arms, and is the author of several books on military headgear including A Gallery of Military Headdress, which is available on Amazon.com.

[The War Wagon]

A primer (pardon the pun) on recent shortages, and how they worked out.

Can’t Find Any Ammo? Prices Sky High? It’s Happened Before.

Published
July 15, 2021



This is a Glock 22 (.40 S&W) with a few modifications. It has a Hogue rubber grip, Lasermax internal laser, extended slide takedown lever, Surefire X200a light, and Trijicon night sights. It is surrounded by .40 Hydra-shok bullets.

Baseball legend Yogi Berra reportedly once proclaimed, “It’s like déjà vu all over again,” and while a bit of a redundancy, many shooters may be feeling such a sensation when heading to buy ammunition. The great ammunition shortage of 2021, along with high prices if you do find any, won’t likely end anytime soon–and it is unlikely to be contained to a single year.

In fact, it was just a few years ago during the Obama administration that ammunition of all calibers was in great demand, which in turn drove up prices to record levels. The shortage, which even impacted law enforcement, began just after Obama was elected. According to one gun shop owner, it even began the day after the 2008 election when “people started stocking up, buying half a lifetime to a lifetime supply of ammo all at one time.”
No Easy Fix
Whereas the novel coronavirus kicked off a buying spree that saw record firearms sales last year, and into the first four months of 2021, which in turn created nearly unprecedented demand for ammunition – in 2009, the increased sales of firearms was also a factor, but so too were the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

There were also a number of unsubstantiated rumors that the government was stocking up on ammunition, which in turn and quite expectedly resulted in panic buying.

The result was an ammunition shortage that actually lasted for years. According to a 2014 report from Vox.com, the surge in ammunition took years to address in part because manufacturers didn’t believe the panic would last long enough to invest in costly new factories. This time around, the ammo makers have built new facilities and run production lines around the clock.

However, many of the lines had been shuttered for weeks or longer due to the national shutdown that was brought on by the pandemic, so even with new factories, it could take months to make up the lost ground especially as the sales of guns broke all the records. The increase in first-time shooters also meant that those individuals were unlikely to have any stockpiles and thus boosted the demand.

Small Margin Product
Another consideration both during the “Obama Ammo Shortage” and the “Covid/Biden Ammo Shortage” is that the supply of boxes of bullets never really was that great to begin with. Many gun shops and smaller retailers rarely stock mass quantities of ammunition.

First and foremost, the margin is simply too low. Ammunition isn’t a loss leader, but it is still a product that is offered to bring people into the store so they might buy something else. Because of the low margins, it makes little sense to stock more than what regularly sells. Demand is also cyclical – shooters will buy more in the summer to go to the range and in advance of the fall hunting season, but as winter rolls around there tends to be a dip.

That cycle was broken last year as gun sales spiked after Joe Biden won the presidential election in November, further impacting the supply chain for retailers. Now with summer in full bloom and hunting season not all that many weeks away, ammo remains sought after even as gun sales have started to dip.

The result could be a return to normalcy in early 2022 – but it is just as likely that the demand will remain as Biden pushes for gun control, and his nominee to the ATF has called for an increased tax on ammunition. Empty shelves could be part of the new normal–at least for a while longer.

Peter Suciu is a Michigan-based writer who has contributed to more than four dozen magazines, newspapers and websites. He regularly writes about military small arms, and is the author of several books on military headgear including A Gallery of Military Headdress, which is available on Amazon.com.

With the SlowJoe / BlowHo insurrection in... "charge" ... 2025 sounds OPTIMISTIC at this point.  I'D plan on THAT basis.

[Zombie.Hunter]

Joe and his hired Ho must go!!!

[The War Wagon]

I couldn't agree MO'!!!

[Zombie.Hunter]

I bought this 3x5 flag for the homestead, don't know how the neighbors are going to like it seeing as they voted for the bastard.


If you want your own, I bought mine off Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Lhh-American-Outd...B08CCX3ZQJ